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	<title>Comments on: Metrocard Math</title>
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		<title>By: chelsea</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-3303</link>
		<dc:creator>chelsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is all great in theory, however, all metrocards under the old rate expire as of July 7th 2009. they will be refunded at a prorated cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is all great in theory, however, all metrocards under the old rate expire as of July 7th 2009. they will be refunded at a prorated cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-2884</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Jen, doesn&#039;t work that way. The MTA sets an expiration date on the cards when they up the prices, and it&#039;s usually 2-3 months after the fares change. So you&#039;ll be stuck holding 10 useless metrocards, and be out 800 bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jen, doesn&#8217;t work that way. The MTA sets an expiration date on the cards when they up the prices, and it&#8217;s usually 2-3 months after the fares change. So you&#8217;ll be stuck holding 10 useless metrocards, and be out 800 bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: ChickenUnderwear</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-2881</link>
		<dc:creator>ChickenUnderwear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MTA also does not let individuals sell metrocards.  I had the same idea, the MTA shut down my ebay sales or metrocards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MTA also does not let individuals sell metrocards.  I had the same idea, the MTA shut down my ebay sales or metrocards.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-2877</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately you&#039;re not smarter than the MTA. They will set a grace period, I believe it was two months last time they hiked the fare, by which time you must use those unlimited cards. The expiration date on the cards means nothing in this case. If you have cards after that grace period, you have to mail them in to get a refund. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately you&#8217;re not smarter than the MTA. They will set a grace period, I believe it was two months last time they hiked the fare, by which time you must use those unlimited cards. The expiration date on the cards means nothing in this case. If you have cards after that grace period, you have to mail them in to get a refund. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-2876</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On pen and paper, it seems like a great idea. Except for the fact, that sadly the MTA takes this into account and controls how long the outstanding metrocards can be in effect for. They did this last year for the price increase from 73ish to 81 dollars for the monthly.  

Just letting you know the stockpile idea is great, just wont work realistically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On pen and paper, it seems like a great idea. Except for the fact, that sadly the MTA takes this into account and controls how long the outstanding metrocards can be in effect for. They did this last year for the price increase from 73ish to 81 dollars for the monthly.  </p>
<p>Just letting you know the stockpile idea is great, just wont work realistically.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewbacchus</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-2874</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewbacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gives me great joy, not makes me. Maybe leave the makes me. I&#039;m at your mercy, moderators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gives me great joy, not makes me. Maybe leave the makes me. I&#8217;m at your mercy, moderators.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewbacchus</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-2873</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewbacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me great joy to see math on the internet not in the form of a divided by zero macro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me great joy to see math on the internet not in the form of a divided by zero macro.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-2872</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but the MTA is way ahead of you.  Every time there is a fare increase they only allow a short grace period afterward for which unlimited Metrocards can be used-- the date of purchase is encoded on the card, so it&#039;s easy for them to monitor and invalidate cards.  They will refund your money at face value, but you won&#039;t be able to make a gain other than perhaps two or three cards (at most) at the cheaper rate.  

For per-use cards, they simply start charging you the higher rate when the increase kicks in-- per-use cards don&#039;t actually have a number of rides, just a dollar balance.

See http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/03/10/mta-sets-june-grace-period-on-all-pre-hike-metrocards/ for what happened last time fares went up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but the MTA is way ahead of you.  Every time there is a fare increase they only allow a short grace period afterward for which unlimited Metrocards can be used&#8211; the date of purchase is encoded on the card, so it&#8217;s easy for them to monitor and invalidate cards.  They will refund your money at face value, but you won&#8217;t be able to make a gain other than perhaps two or three cards (at most) at the cheaper rate.  </p>
<p>For per-use cards, they simply start charging you the higher rate when the increase kicks in&#8211; per-use cards don&#8217;t actually have a number of rides, just a dollar balance.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/03/10/mta-sets-june-grace-period-on-all-pre-hike-metrocards/" rel="nofollow">http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/03/10/mta-sets-june-grace-period-on-all-pre-hike-metrocards/</a> for what happened last time fares went up.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhhhhh, last few times they raised the fares on the unlimited monthlys, they also instituted an expiration date on the old fares... Even if you bought a year&#039;s worth, they would be no good and you&#039;d have to return them for your money back because the MTA will cancel them after their expiration date... Just FYI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhhhhh, last few times they raised the fares on the unlimited monthlys, they also instituted an expiration date on the old fares&#8230; Even if you bought a year&#8217;s worth, they would be no good and you&#8217;d have to return them for your money back because the MTA will cancel them after their expiration date&#8230; Just FYI</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-2870</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sad to break the news to you, but unlimited metrocards actually &quot;expire&quot; much sooner than the date in the back... usually one or two months after the fare is increased.

The MTA just programs the turnstiles to not accept &quot;old fare cards&quot; after a certain date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sad to break the news to you, but unlimited metrocards actually &#8220;expire&#8221; much sooner than the date in the back&#8230; usually one or two months after the fare is increased.</p>
<p>The MTA just programs the turnstiles to not accept &#8220;old fare cards&#8221; after a certain date.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the mta won&#039;t let you hang onto cards forever. They institute a period in which you need to use it, like a couple of months. you can&#039;t buy 5 years of metro cards and expect to be able to use them. Same thing happened last fare hike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the mta won&#8217;t let you hang onto cards forever. They institute a period in which you need to use it, like a couple of months. you can&#8217;t buy 5 years of metro cards and expect to be able to use them. Same thing happened last fare hike</p>
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		<title>By: norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seemed like a great idea except for one hitch: Metrocards expire. So if you bought 12 Metrocards today, they would all expire next month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seemed like a great idea except for one hitch: Metrocards expire. So if you bought 12 Metrocards today, they would all expire next month.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-2867</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the past, the MTA has severely limited expiration dates on pre-purchased 30-day MetroCards. In fact, in 2008, the MTA set a sunset date of &lt;a href=&quot;http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/03/10/mta-sets-june-grace-period-on-all-pre-hike-metrocards/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;June 1&lt;/a&gt; for all Unlimited Ride cards purchased prior to the fact hike. In other words, if you buy a 30-day card and the fares go up, you only have a few months to start using it before it becomes worthless. Following that expiration date, a holder of an unused card will have to go through the MTA&#039;s refund process.

So stockpiling MetroCards doesn&#039;t exist and could wind up costing anyone who does it a fair amount of money or time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past, the MTA has severely limited expiration dates on pre-purchased 30-day MetroCards. In fact, in 2008, the MTA set a sunset date of <a href="http://secondavenuesagas.com/2008/03/10/mta-sets-june-grace-period-on-all-pre-hike-metrocards/" rel="nofollow">June 1</a> for all Unlimited Ride cards purchased prior to the fact hike. In other words, if you buy a 30-day card and the fares go up, you only have a few months to start using it before it becomes worthless. Following that expiration date, a holder of an unused card will have to go through the MTA&#8217;s refund process.</p>
<p>So stockpiling MetroCards doesn&#8217;t exist and could wind up costing anyone who does it a fair amount of money or time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.jenisfamous.com/dev/2009/03/metrocard-math.html/comment-page-1#comment-2866</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, Jen,
Now we need to know when they are officially going to raising the price, so we can implement your brilliant plan.

cheers,
Murph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, Jen,<br />
Now we need to know when they are officially going to raising the price, so we can implement your brilliant plan.</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Murph.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time they raised the rates they gave people a grace period for those that had old cards and could change the date at any time.  I bet the grace period will be less than a month this time around.

Take a look here: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/mta-announces-grace-period-for-old-metrocards/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time they raised the rates they gave people a grace period for those that had old cards and could change the date at any time.  I bet the grace period will be less than a month this time around.</p>
<p>Take a look here: <a href="http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/mta-announces-grace-period-for-old-metrocards/" rel="nofollow">http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/mta-announces-grace-period-for-old-metrocards/</a></p>
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